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Bognor Lean-to Project
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Sunny and warmer today so made an effort.
Emptied all the parts from the car into the conservatory ….
Boot emptied…
seats out plus all the other parts that had been dumped in there ( ie donor car parts )
Oops ….bit of a mess in the conservatory …
but I can live with it…. and I can sit in the warm armed with RealOem and make sure I have everything and also find out where it all goes
But it now gives me full access inside the car to get to all the internal roof bolts that hold it at the back.
The only difficult part as far as I can see is getting the sealant in between the metal and plastic bows on the last 200mm to the rear of the doors where it is tight. Still if that’s the only issue, I will have to find a way to sort it out.
I will also have to feed the roof wire through the frame and resolder the plug on. Might have a go at that before doing the sealant.
Emptied all the parts from the car into the conservatory ….
Boot emptied…
seats out plus all the other parts that had been dumped in there ( ie donor car parts )
Oops ….bit of a mess in the conservatory …
but I can live with it…. and I can sit in the warm armed with RealOem and make sure I have everything and also find out where it all goes
But it now gives me full access inside the car to get to all the internal roof bolts that hold it at the back.
The only difficult part as far as I can see is getting the sealant in between the metal and plastic bows on the last 200mm to the rear of the doors where it is tight. Still if that’s the only issue, I will have to find a way to sort it out.
I will also have to feed the roof wire through the frame and resolder the plug on. Might have a go at that before doing the sealant.
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Started with all good intentions this morning , and found where the roof microswitch goes,
so….after 30 minutes locating the two torx screws, reattached it , and after taking down one of the net curtains to use the curtain wire as a pull through, got the wire installed down through the frame.
Next was to solder and sleeve the wire to the connector lead so it’s ready to plug in. But will need to work out how it routed so I don’t make it too short…. Thanks to @AntStark for connector with wire attached
At this point the postman arrived with the parts needed to repair my generator …. so decided to rebuild that instead .
Which I can say is now all done and working.
I might see if the roof lines up by doing a dummy run on bolting it up before actually putting the sealant in ….
so….after 30 minutes locating the two torx screws, reattached it , and after taking down one of the net curtains to use the curtain wire as a pull through, got the wire installed down through the frame.
Next was to solder and sleeve the wire to the connector lead so it’s ready to plug in. But will need to work out how it routed so I don’t make it too short….
Thanks to @AntStark for connector with wire attachedAt this point the postman arrived with the parts needed to repair my generator …. so decided to rebuild that instead .
Which I can say is now all done and working.
I might see if the roof lines up by doing a dummy run on bolting it up before actually putting the sealant in ….
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No excuses aka distractions now the generator is fixed! Let’s see the 2.8 finished now - PLEASEStarted with all good intentions this morning , and found where the roof microswitch goes, so….after 30 minutes locating the two torx screws, reattached it , and after taking down one of the net curtains to use the curtain wire as a pull through, got the wire installed down through the frame.
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Next was to solder and sleeve the wire to the connector lead so it’s ready to plug in. But will need to work out how it routed so I don’t make it too short….
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At this point the postman arrived with the parts needed to repair my generator …. so decided to rebuild that instead .
Which I can say is now all done and working.
I might see if the roof lines up by doing a dummy run on bolting it up before actually putting the sealant in ….
Put a bit of effort in today , and with the help of my mate, finally got the roof fitted.
I bought some Upol Tiger Seal but was never sure if it was the correct sealant to use ……as it was an adhesive sealant.
Anyway after chatting to Ian ( my Mate) we decided to use the butyl strip as per the manual….and it was a good decision as I think had we used the mastic it would have got everywhere…….
First thing was to check the plastic bow that I had previously installed. The 4 bolts were only fingertight and I found that the bow had dropped a bit so the holes didnt line up
, It was fixed with the same butyl so with a bit of persuasion managed to realign it and tightened up the 4 bolts to hold it in place.
Next was to add the butyl to the plastic bow and fortunately there is a guide to show where it goes.
This was a lot easier that last time I did it , as Ian fed out the strip from the reel and I placed it into position.
Because I didnt want to have any leaks I decided to add a second layer… so pulled off the release paper and repeated the process. (The grey butyl is 15mm wide x 2 mm thick…. So I I ended up with it 4mm thick)
Before picking up the roof to install it , I pulled back the release paper on either side to just before the bend.
This is because its really tight in this area and I didnt want the release paper to break when trying to pull it off.
Then it was the point of no return!!!!
We lifted it in, dropping the back in first then got the drivers side in and on the studs, then with a bit of pushing got the passenger side in..
With it in the closed position but not fixed at the windscreen, lined up the centre screw at the back and put it in finger tight.
Then added all the rest of the 15 screws that hold the metal bow ( total is 19 but the other 4 hold the plastic bow only)
Put the frame fixings in , 2 nuts and 1 bolt either side, And screwed them down, but at this point …not tight.
Next was to tighten all the bow bolts … started with the one in the middle and tightened it, then next one along on the left, then one on the right , and so on until all done.
After locking the roof shut the frame nuts and bolts were tightened.
To finish off I put the rubber seal round the back of the roof
and then connected the lead that runs to the microswitch in the roof… the mating half is fixed to a bracket held by a roof frame nut Also on the passenger side, clipped the piston to the ball joint located on the frame..
Been really dreading doing this job, but went better than I was expecting. Certainly having help made all the difference.
Thats as far as I got today… but so pleased its done. And the roof seems to be nice and tight, and hopefully fully sealed 
Might start to put back the interior tomorrow
I bought some Upol Tiger Seal but was never sure if it was the correct sealant to use ……as it was an adhesive sealant.
Anyway after chatting to Ian ( my Mate) we decided to use the butyl strip as per the manual….and it was a good decision as I think had we used the mastic it would have got everywhere…….
First thing was to check the plastic bow that I had previously installed. The 4 bolts were only fingertight and I found that the bow had dropped a bit so the holes didnt line up
, It was fixed with the same butyl so with a bit of persuasion managed to realign it and tightened up the 4 bolts to hold it in place.Next was to add the butyl to the plastic bow and fortunately there is a guide to show where it goes.
This was a lot easier that last time I did it , as Ian fed out the strip from the reel and I placed it into position.
Because I didnt want to have any leaks I decided to add a second layer… so pulled off the release paper and repeated the process. (The grey butyl is 15mm wide x 2 mm thick…. So I I ended up with it 4mm thick)
Before picking up the roof to install it , I pulled back the release paper on either side to just before the bend.
This is because its really tight in this area and I didnt want the release paper to break when trying to pull it off.
Then it was the point of no return!!!!
We lifted it in, dropping the back in first then got the drivers side in and on the studs, then with a bit of pushing got the passenger side in..
With it in the closed position but not fixed at the windscreen, lined up the centre screw at the back and put it in finger tight.
Then added all the rest of the 15 screws that hold the metal bow ( total is 19 but the other 4 hold the plastic bow only)
Put the frame fixings in , 2 nuts and 1 bolt either side, And screwed them down, but at this point …not tight.
Next was to tighten all the bow bolts … started with the one in the middle and tightened it, then next one along on the left, then one on the right , and so on until all done.
After locking the roof shut the frame nuts and bolts were tightened.
To finish off I put the rubber seal round the back of the roof
and then connected the lead that runs to the microswitch in the roof… the mating half is fixed to a bracket held by a roof frame nut Also on the passenger side, clipped the piston to the ball joint located on the frame..
Been really dreading doing this job, but went better than I was expecting. Certainly having help made all the difference.
Thats as far as I got today… but so pleased its done.
And the roof seems to be nice and tight, and hopefully fully sealed Might start to put back the interior tomorrow
Thought I would just advise this as I ran into a bit of a delay today due to some clips that I needed……….
This is the clip in question… Part number 51478236385
Is used in two places…. The piece of trim running up the side of the door, and the trim across the bottom of the door that has ‘Roadster‘ on it. 4 used on each part
After breaking a couple and not having any spares I called the local BMW dealer to get a pack of 10………
£31.30. !!!!!!!
and no stock, but could order them in
So I said I’ll think about it !!!
Looked on RealOEM and found there was an alternative in Black. part number 51478413209
This only comes in the exploded view showing the bottom of the door trim part.
Phoned the ‘Stealer’ back and quoted this number……..
65p each ( no min order) and he could get them for this afternoon…… so ordered 10 and now waiting for a call to say they are ready for collection.
How do they get away with the way they price things !!!!!!
But ….had a bit of luck as well as I took the Upol Tiger seal back and got a full refund on it……
This is the clip in question… Part number 51478236385
Is used in two places…. The piece of trim running up the side of the door, and the trim across the bottom of the door that has ‘Roadster‘ on it. 4 used on each part
After breaking a couple and not having any spares I called the local BMW dealer to get a pack of 10………
£31.30. !!!!!!!
and no stock, but could order them in
So I said I’ll think about it !!!
Looked on RealOEM and found there was an alternative in Black. part number 51478413209
This only comes in the exploded view showing the bottom of the door trim part.
Phoned the ‘Stealer’ back and quoted this number……..
65p each ( no min order) and he could get them for this afternoon…… so ordered 10 and now waiting for a call to say they are ready for collection.
How do they get away with the way they price things !!!!!!
But ….had a bit of luck as well as I took the Upol Tiger seal back and got a full refund on it……
Those of gone way up in price but you can get some alternatives on eBay as well https://ebay.us/m/ABTfZF
WHAT A RIP OFF !!!!!!!! And thats the each price !
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- Newport, South Wales,UK
- Model of Z
- Z3 M43 1.8 (1999) and Z4 E85 2.0i (2007)
20 clips on ebay here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/29153225...Iw7hPGiS+yGbWr4kQNqDXbaQ==|tkp:Bk9SR9L15uTYZg
Oops wrong links, I’m not that daft. https://ebay.us/m/JHZos7
Thats not bad @ 30p ea…. But I wanted them today so paid the 65p
Got on with getting the interior back today… but came across a few issues so didn’t get as far as I hoped 
First job was to make an adjustment to the roof….
The drivers side locking handle was a bit stiff so needed to adjust the frame fixing
Undid the two nuts and the bolt on the drivers side and fitted 3 horseshoe spacers.
Retightened and the locking handle a lot better ( not so stiff )
Next was the trim piece
Then the side trims
One thing to add here…. Fiddly getting them over the tubes and seat belts…
check that this piece on the seat belt unit has not been dislodged …..as I had done ……but noticed it and clipped it back in place
if you look back at the trim piece photo you can see its not in place
Next had to find all the screws etc that hold all this stuff in place……
Glad I bagged and labelled it all
I then found a part I didnt recognise but after picking up the turret tops found where it lived
new bit of double sided tape….
And put back in place
OOOPS !!!!!!!
but it has previously had a repair…….
and as it turned out had the same issue with the other side
So repaired…first with superglue to get it lined up
Then used my heated staple gun…
wanted to use the snake ones but too big so used 3 of the rippled ones
Really easy to do this
Just clipped them all and that was it done.
But in mounting them I found an issue that was probably the cause of the being broken in the first place.
The turret top to is held on by three lugs, the rear one being the one that was damaged. The two lugs at the front drop into the two slots as you can see below….. the problem was the lugs on the turret top are 18.50mm wide…. On the turret lower, the slot further away was 19mm wide , but the nearer one was 17.00mm…. So filed it out to 19mm and it fitted with ease!!!!
Next dropped the centre piece in
And after about 30 mins had lots of bits back on …..and got to use my new bit of kit…..
Decided I dont like the windbreak… looks like I’m drying a pair of pants !!!!
So took it off . And finished off the centre console and vacuumed the carpet
Normally the panel at the rear of the console has the roof switch…. But I extended some wires and moved it to the front so its easier to use.
just a bit of trim on the passenger side threshold to complete , then put the seats in
place ….hopefully in the morning before going to footy
but starting to look like a car again…..
First job was to make an adjustment to the roof….
The drivers side locking handle was a bit stiff so needed to adjust the frame fixing
Undid the two nuts and the bolt on the drivers side and fitted 3 horseshoe spacers.
Retightened and the locking handle a lot better ( not so stiff )
Next was the trim piece
Then the side trims
One thing to add here…. Fiddly getting them over the tubes and seat belts…
check that this piece on the seat belt unit has not been dislodged …..as I had done ……but noticed it and clipped it back in place
if you look back at the trim piece photo you can see its not in place
Next had to find all the screws etc that hold all this stuff in place……
Glad I bagged and labelled it all
I then found a part I didnt recognise but after picking up the turret tops found where it lived
new bit of double sided tape….
And put back in place
OOOPS !!!!!!!
but it has previously had a repair…….
and as it turned out had the same issue with the other side
So repaired…first with superglue to get it lined up
Then used my heated staple gun…
wanted to use the snake ones but too big so used 3 of the rippled ones
Really easy to do this
Just clipped them all and that was it done.
But in mounting them I found an issue that was probably the cause of the being broken in the first place.
The turret top to is held on by three lugs, the rear one being the one that was damaged. The two lugs at the front drop into the two slots as you can see below….. the problem was the lugs on the turret top are 18.50mm wide…. On the turret lower, the slot further away was 19mm wide , but the nearer one was 17.00mm…. So filed it out to 19mm and it fitted with ease!!!!
Next dropped the centre piece in
And after about 30 mins had lots of bits back on …..and got to use my new bit of kit…..
Decided I dont like the windbreak… looks like I’m drying a pair of pants !!!!
So took it off . And finished off the centre console and vacuumed the carpet
Normally the panel at the rear of the console has the roof switch…. But I extended some wires and moved it to the front so its easier to use.
just a bit of trim on the passenger side threshold to complete , then put the seats in
place ….hopefully in the morning before going to footy
but starting to look like a car again…..
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An early start before footy ….
Seats back in and connected up
Made sure with the roof up
Had to make another repair on this piece but should be ok to put back tomorrow
Right that’s enough…now footy ….yippee !!!
Seats back in and connected up
Made sure with the roof up
Had to make another repair on this piece but should be ok to put back tomorrow
Right that’s enough…now footy ….yippee !!!
Really enjoy reading your progress, hope you enjoyed the football
reinstalled the door trim this morning then ran into a problem
the windows have been down for a couple of years and they have had the sliders changed in that time .
This morning I thought I would put them up and check the seal along the roof line…..
Passenger window goes up and down perfectly…. The drivers window… didnt move to start with …made a noise, then went up ok but stayed there !!!!! It wont go down ….
As they run off the same fuse I am assuming its either the motor or a bad connection which means taking the door card off and the
moisture barrier off…….more clips to break!!!!!!
has this happened to anyone ?….just to give me a start on where to look??
the windows have been down for a couple of years and they have had the sliders changed in that time .
This morning I thought I would put them up and check the seal along the roof line…..
Passenger window goes up and down perfectly…. The drivers window… didnt move to start with …made a noise, then went up ok but stayed there !!!!! It wont go down ….
As they run off the same fuse I am assuming its either the motor or a bad connection which means taking the door card off and the
moisture barrier off
…….more clips to break!!!!!!has this happened to anyone ?….just to give me a start on where to look??
After having a cup of tea… and putting my brain, or whats left of it, in gear…. I remembered that I stripped the donor car of switches… some were sold but the two window switches were still in the box
So grabbed one and took the easy way to get the switch out … which is ease off the gear stick gaiter and push the switch from underneath…
Result …… window now works ….. and one duff switch is in the bin…… So relieved it was as simple as that as nothing on this car has been easy
It can do with a bit of silicon spray on the rubber so will acquire some later today
So grabbed one and took the easy way to get the switch out … which is ease off the gear stick gaiter and push the switch from underneath…
Result …… window now works ….. and one duff switch is in the bin…… So relieved it was as simple as that as nothing on this car has been easy
It can do with a bit of silicon spray on the rubber so will acquire some later today
Out in the garage this morning to give the engine a start and to sort the dashboard lights … bit like Christmas lights
the usual ones were present as the seats had been disconnected so ran the engine and went through all the ‘delete codes’ and all went out .
Turned the engine off then restarted it….
Two lights stayed on… Engine Management and the one on the far right that looks like someone wearing a seatbelt with a balloon on their lap
First the Engine Management light…
With my scanner on the DME option read the code
I assume this refers to the sensors that are fitted on the manifold down pipes and plug in under the plastic cover on top of the engine
but any ideas what the problem could be ???
Secondly the seat belt / balloon light….
From the SBS option
The code was as follows ..
However I erased the fault code and the light went out but came back on….
with it was this fault code
you’ll see at the bottom it says 1/16….. when you scrolled each page it was the same fault for 16 pages
When you delete this code, the light doesn’t go out . Only deleting the occupancy code turns the light off … but then it comes back on again
any ideas about this gratefully received ..
the usual ones were present as the seats had been disconnected so ran the engine and went through all the ‘delete codes’ and all went out .
Turned the engine off then restarted it….
Two lights stayed on… Engine Management and the one on the far right that looks like someone wearing a seatbelt with a balloon on their lap
First the Engine Management light…
With my scanner on the DME option read the code
I assume this refers to the sensors that are fitted on the manifold down pipes and plug in under the plastic cover on top of the engine
but any ideas what the problem could be ???
Secondly the seat belt / balloon light….
From the SBS option
The code was as follows ..
However I erased the fault code and the light went out but came back on….
with it was this fault code
you’ll see at the bottom it says 1/16….. when you scrolled each page it was the same fault for 16 pages
When you delete this code, the light doesn’t go out . Only deleting the occupancy code turns the light off … but then it comes back on again
any ideas about this gratefully received ..
Have you checked the seat occupancy box is plugged in underneath the passenger seat?